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LEON: Everybody liked Ed [Roberts]. Ed was jolly. Ed was encouraging. He was optimistic and positive.

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Ed was always saying can-do.

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If someone came to Ed and wanted to do something or wanted his support, he'd say "Yes."

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LEON: If they came to Judy [Heumann], Judy would...

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critique it or look at it in terms of whether it was a priority or how it fit into the plan that she had, the goal that she had.

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LEON: When it came to me, I would be most pragmatic, and say whether it would work.

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O'HARA: Did you say that you didn't feel part of the movement? Did I understand you correctly?

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LEON: Non-disabled people in the disability movement...

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have always been in a somewhat unclear situation.

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LEON: There has been such a history of professionals speaking on behalf of disabled people that...

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there's been a very strong desire in this movement to have people speak for themselves.