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BONNEY: There was some talk when the program was going on, you had a program for people who were blind and deaf, I believe, and there was some...

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difference of opinion, let me say, about whether or not the program should slow down so that these people had time to do the work, keep up with the work.

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BONNEY: In your transcript, Neil, you say that you didn't want to teach at a slower pace...

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because people with disabilities needed to work harder, perform better, and be better.

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Why did you say that?

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JACOBSON: OK.

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The program was a very hard program.

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The people, the people were there five days a week, or six days a week, or seven days a week, eight hours, twelve hours, eighteen hours a day, OK...

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JACOBSON: because I felt that whoever could survive the program, could do, could do anything.

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I wanted them to realize that they could do anything.

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JACOBSON: I wanted them to realize that it's OK to work hard, it's OK to be tired...

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and that no matter how hard it is, there is always a way to do it.

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And eventually, when they did get a job, the job would be easy.

